Blog EntryGin Rummy: Don't Call Them 'Insurgents'Nov 30, '05 6:26 PM
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November 29th, 2005 6:18 pm
Rumsfeld: Don't Call Them 'Insurgents'

By Robert Burns / Associated Press

WASHINGTON - More than 2 1/2 years into the Iraq war, Donald H. Rumsfeld has decided the enemy are not insurgents.

"This is a group of people who don't merit the word `insurgency,' I think," Rumsfeld said Tuesday at a Pentagon news conference. He said the thought had come to him suddenly over the Thanksgiving weekend.

"It was an epiphany."

Rumsfeld's comments drew chuckles but had a serious side.

"I think that you can have a legitimate insurgency in a country that has popular support and has a cohesiveness and has a legitimate gripe," he said. "These people don't have a legitimate gripe." Still, he acknowledged that his point may not be supported by the standard definition of `insurgent.' He promised to look it up.

Webster's New World College Dictionary defines the term "insurgent" as "rising up against established authority."

Even Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who stood beside Rumsfeld at the news conference, found it impossible to describe the fighting in Iraq without twice using the term `insurgent.'

After the word slipped out the first time, Pace looked sheepishly at Rumsfeld and quipped apologetically, "I have to use the word `insurgent' because I can't think of a better word right now."

Without missing a beat, Rumsfeld replied with a wide grin: "Enemies of the legitimate Iraqi government. How's that?"

At another point in their news conference, Rumsfeld and Pace had an unusual exchange in which Rumsfeld corrected his senior military adviser, only to have Pace gently insist that it was the defense secretary who was wrong.

A reporter asked Pace what U.S. commanders in Iraq are supposed to do if they find Iraqi forces abusing prisoners. Pace replied that if inhumane treatment is observed it is a service member's duty to stop it.

"I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it — it's to report it," Rumsfeld said, turning to Pace.

Replied the general: "If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it."



jackfrost wrote on Nov 30, '05, edited on Nov 30, '05
On a related note, the move to the term "insurgent" was discussed, just over a year ago, here:

There are no insurgents in Iraq
mivox wrote on Nov 30, '05
Wow. So when you become Secretary of State, you not only get to make up your own word definitions, you get to alter military policy on-the-fly too? (Cheers to Gen. Pace. I wonder if he'll be 'encouraged to take early retirement' soon...)
barefootmeg wrote on Nov 30, '05
mivox said
So when you become Secretary of State, you not only get to make up your own word definitions, you get to alter military policy on-the-fly too?
when you're the secretary of state you're only allowed to make up definitions. when you become president you're allowed to make up words. ;-)
rkastl wrote on Dec 1, '05
Hey there! You're stealing my material.

"Gin Rummy" ... that's funny. One of the talk radio hosts here in town calls him "Rums-namara." Either way, that freak-of-nature has to go. In cuffs. Perp walk. Completely disgraced.
rkastl wrote on Dec 1, '05
Correction: Secretary of Defense.

Condi is Sec. of State. F'ing beeeyoooootch.
jackfrost wrote on Dec 1, '05, edited on Dec 1, '05
rkastl said
Correction: Secretary of Defense.

Condi is Sec. of State. F'ing beeeyoooootch.
Thanks. Much better coming from you...
mivox wrote on Dec 1, '05
rkastl said
Correction: Secretary of Defense.

Condi is Sec. of State. F'ing beeeyoooootch.
*cringe*
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